question about DeathBringer and armor penetration - Guild Wars Forums

candyman_sb · May 10, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Please answer this

1. Why are so many people farming for deathbringer. I see a lot of spam in chat like "LFP deathbringer". There are so many better scythes and that -10 armor mod from deathbringer sucks. Someone explain whats so good about it.

2. How does armor penetration work? If I have a 20/20 AP mod than 1 of 5 attacks does bonus dmg? And how does AP work against several foes? Does it affect only the primary or if u hit 3 foes activates for all 3?

cdgsax · May 10, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37

1. It's easy to farm, simple as that.

2. The only time I've noticed the armor penatration was when I used an attack skill. I have never liked sundering, but it probably is useful in certain situations.

TwinRaven · May 11, 2007, 01:33 AM // 01:33

1. yup, farming is easy.

2. Funny thing with the 20/20 mod for armor penetration, it seems to be a 20% chance per mob hit...so, if you hit 3 mobs at the same time, each has a 20% chance to have their armor penetrated...purely observational, as I have noticed fluctuations in damage vary with a single hit....three of the same mobs taking 3 different amounts of damage with one hit....assumed that it was combination of critical hit and the 20/20 mod...Looking around guildwiki isn't much help in the matter, take a look though, maybe you'll have better luck than I did.

viper11025 · May 11, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47

1. Easy
2. Wierd! It applies to each one like raven said.

I think they should make a mod for ALL weapons so they have a chance of doing area dmg like a scythe.

candyman_sb · May 11, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42

If sundering applyes to 3 foes at once than it must be one of the best mods for scythes.

And about deathbringer: Why farm for a crapy scythe just cause is easy to farm? Probably many players think that -10 armor applyes to ur target and not to them. I've seen someone who told me this so it must be true for some players.
And why not farm for a better scythe even if it's harder?

ichigo_panty · May 11, 2007, 08:48 AM // 08:48

Don't vamp/zealous apply to all 3 foes at once? So, sundering should apply too.

Deathbringer is a bad scythe to begin with, i guess green promote the status of deathbringer. The impression of all greens are good.

Gaia_Hunter · May 11, 2007, 11:48 AM // 11:48

I never understood why ppl need a party to farm him, when u can hench the way and then solo it.

Sunder still suxxs no matter what. Why dont Dwaynas Grace comes with vampiric, why??!!!!!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Soul of the Scythe · May 11, 2007, 02:35 PM // 14:35

As for the Deathbringer, when I first saw it(on a list of unique scythes off wiki when NF came out) I immediately discounted it. Truth is, the first time I klilled Dabineh was about 2 weeks ago when I finally capped Reaper's Sweep.(was and still is using Wounding Strike) If you want a better Scythe to farm, go for Eshekibeh's Scythe in the Vehjin Mines from Marobeh Sharptail, who also has the Elite Skill, Wouning Strike. It is 5/1 Vampiric, 15% while enchanted and hp+30 and it has a nice looking skin.

I believe Sundering does apply to all hits because when you attack with the Scythe, it is considered one attack and the bonus for it is that it hits 2 foes adjacent to your target. My proof is that when attacking as a Dervish with Empathy on you, it only triggers once. For Damage, Vampiric does more damage, on average, than sundering in all cases(maybe not hammer).

May 10, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27	#1
candyman_sb Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007 Profession: A/	question about DeathBringer and armor penetration Please answer this 1. Why are so many people farming for deathbringer. I see a lot of spam in chat like "LFP deathbringer". There are so many better scythes and that -10 armor mod from deathbringer sucks. Someone explain whats so good about it. 2. How does armor penetration work? If I have a 20/20 AP mod than 1 of 5 attacks does bonus dmg? And how does AP work against several foes? Does it affect only the primary or if u hit 3 foes activates for all 3?

May 10, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37	#2
cdgsax Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006	1. It's easy to farm, simple as that. 2. The only time I've noticed the armor penatration was when I used an attack skill. I have never liked sundering, but it probably is useful in certain situations.

May 11, 2007, 01:33 AM // 01:33	#3
TwinRaven Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	1. yup, farming is easy. 2. Funny thing with the 20/20 mod for armor penetration, it seems to be a 20% chance per mob hit...so, if you hit 3 mobs at the same time, each has a 20% chance to have their armor penetrated...purely observational, as I have noticed fluctuations in damage vary with a single hit....three of the same mobs taking 3 different amounts of damage with one hit....assumed that it was combination of critical hit and the 20/20 mod...Looking around guildwiki isn't much help in the matter, take a look though, maybe you'll have better luck than I did.

May 11, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47	#4
viper11025 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 02/18/05 (Pm me with the place, its a riddle) Profession: A/	1. Easy 2. Wierd! It applies to each one like raven said. I think they should make a mod for ALL weapons so they have a chance of doing area dmg like a scythe.

May 11, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42	#5
candyman_sb Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007 Profession: A/	If sundering applyes to 3 foes at once than it must be one of the best mods for scythes. And about deathbringer: Why farm for a crapy scythe just cause is easy to farm? Probably many players think that -10 armor applyes to ur target and not to them. I've seen someone who told me this so it must be true for some players. And why not farm for a better scythe even if it's harder?

May 11, 2007, 08:48 AM // 08:48	#6
ichigo_panty Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Exiled And Forsaken[EnF]	Don't vamp/zealous apply to all 3 foes at once? So, sundering should apply too. Deathbringer is a bad scythe to begin with, i guess green promote the status of deathbringer. The impression of all greens are good.

May 11, 2007, 11:48 AM // 11:48	#7
Gaia_Hunter Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006	I never understood why ppl need a party to farm him, when u can hench the way and then solo it. Sunder still suxxs no matter what. Why dont Dwaynas Grace comes with vampiric, why??!!!!!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

May 11, 2007, 02:35 PM // 14:35	#8
Soul of the Scythe Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Guild: Higher Order [HO] Profession: D/	As for the Deathbringer, when I first saw it(on a list of unique scythes off wiki when NF came out) I immediately discounted it. Truth is, the first time I klilled Dabineh was about 2 weeks ago when I finally capped Reaper's Sweep.(was and still is using Wounding Strike) If you want a better Scythe to farm, go for Eshekibeh's Scythe in the Vehjin Mines from Marobeh Sharptail, who also has the Elite Skill, Wouning Strike. It is 5/1 Vampiric, 15% while enchanted and hp+30 and it has a nice looking skin. I believe Sundering does apply to all hits because when you attack with the Scythe, it is considered one attack and the bonus for it is that it hits 2 foes adjacent to your target. My proof is that when attacking as a Dervish with Empathy on you, it only triggers once. For Damage, Vampiric does more damage, on average, than sundering in all cases(maybe not hammer).